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Hello.... Hi there... I'm Cynthia Gee, and I'm creating this as a mirror of my other CommonSense blog at HomeschoolBlogger. I am copying the first several articles from over there, and moving them here in their entirety, complete with reader's comments. So if you see your comment HERE, and remember posting it over THERE, relax. You're sane.

Thursday, October 09, 2008

Palin's Prophet: Some links to the theology of Pastor Murthee, George Otis, "Transformations", and the Third Wave

Those who are interested in learning more about what Pastor Murthee (the African witch hunter who anointed Sarah Palin), George Otis, and others connected to the Transformations Revival movement REALLY believe, should look at these links:


http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006/02/george-otis-transformation-spiritual.html

http://www.discernment-ministries.org/GeorgeOtisFallaciousTeachings.htm

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/george-otis-jr-c-peter-wagner-and-the-transformations-revival/

Here's a brief sampling, taken from lectures given in Tacoma on Moral Government Theology, where George Otis made the following statements:

· “God has positionally sanctified you and that you’re standing in Christ is something that is different from your actual state… Christ has not redeemed us by giving His life as a ransom for our sins in order that He might release us. If we accept the premise that Jesus literally purchased… our salvation with his blood… and He paid the Father… then this approach, first of all portrays God the Father as being vindictive and blood-thirsty and totally incompatible with biblical forgiveness.”

· “Forgiveness… is the relaxation of a legitimate claim… it would be impossible for God to have, as one hymn put it, “paid the debt and forgave me all my sins.”

· “The essence of Christ’s Atonement existed in His obedience to the moral law on behalf of sinners. Christ obeyed during his life the moral law for us and that’s really the essence of the Atonement.”

· “Christ has not redeemed us by giving His life as a ransom for our sins in order that He might release us. God never kept man captive in sin. The truth is Christ paid no man’s debt.”

“If we accept the premise that Jesus literally purchased our salvation with His blood… and He paid the Father… then this approach portrays God the Father as being vindictive and blood-thirsty and totally incompatible with biblical forgiveness. It also presents another grave difficulty. If Jesus literally paid for our sins with His blood, and paid a debt that is no longer a debt, and He died for the sins of the whole world, then we [and the theological world] can only come to one conclusion, namely Universalism, which means that everybody will be saved.”
· “The power of the cross, today, does not lie in some vague, abstract, ethereal cosmic transaction but rather in the literal subduing of the human heart. Let’s reverse things and let’s tell the Lord Jesus that when He comes to us, when He comes to his own, that we will receive Him, that we will take Him down off that cross.”

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