Dear "Nom"....
ON Kinism.net, someone (who is loathe to reveal his real name) wrote:
"While we find ourselves bemused that our comments on the hothouse strangeness, outright idiocies, and virulent gossip of the anti-patriarchism crowd, and Cynthia Gee in particular, have engendered such an impassioned response, we are not so foolish as to believe she has anything in mind other than the febrile attempt to expose us to public scrutiny and try us in the court of fashionable (heretical) opinion, in the hope that such personal exposure might provide impetus to a smear campaign similar to that being conducted against a former Kinist, once associated with this website. This is why we write under a nom de plume (or nom de guerre, if you will). The champions of “free speech and open discourse” seem to enjoy placing anonymous calls to employers and pastors when they can’t shout down your ideas with insults. Since we have mouths to feed, we’ll, pass on the ritual seppuku.
However, if Cynthia Gee is serious about attempting to dispute the claims of Kinism, whatever her limited understanding of them may be, we are willing to provide a venue (forum) for her to present her arguments to the public on this website, providing her with an opportunity to interact directly with her opponent (which she has scrupulously avoided, limiting her screeds to her own website, rather than contacting us directly, as scripture stipulates) and to confront in whatever manner she is able the supposed errors of Kinism. Fair enough?
While we don’t hold out hope that she will prove more formidable than any of Kinism’s previous opponents, who now speak into their beards, as it were, we think it only sporting that she be given the opportunity to air her grievances and to prove the biblical support for her gossip campaign against decent men. Cynthia is free to email me at kinadmin@kinism.net if she wishes to accept these terms. "
Dear "Nom d. Plume", I first tried to post my "open letter" on YOUR website, but it would not allow me to comment. So much for scrupulous avoidance...
And, if you wish to debate, I am ready and willing, (especially since I issued the challenge in the first place) provided we do so on neutral territory, and provided that the debate is a public discussion and open to ALL. I suggest we have a neutral third party host the debate, perhaps doing it on a YahooGroup in mid January.
I'll be looking forward to it....
.... unless, of course, "de plume" in your "nom" is a WHITE one.
.
"While we find ourselves bemused that our comments on the hothouse strangeness, outright idiocies, and virulent gossip of the anti-patriarchism crowd, and Cynthia Gee in particular, have engendered such an impassioned response, we are not so foolish as to believe she has anything in mind other than the febrile attempt to expose us to public scrutiny and try us in the court of fashionable (heretical) opinion, in the hope that such personal exposure might provide impetus to a smear campaign similar to that being conducted against a former Kinist, once associated with this website. This is why we write under a nom de plume (or nom de guerre, if you will). The champions of “free speech and open discourse” seem to enjoy placing anonymous calls to employers and pastors when they can’t shout down your ideas with insults. Since we have mouths to feed, we’ll, pass on the ritual seppuku.
However, if Cynthia Gee is serious about attempting to dispute the claims of Kinism, whatever her limited understanding of them may be, we are willing to provide a venue (forum) for her to present her arguments to the public on this website, providing her with an opportunity to interact directly with her opponent (which she has scrupulously avoided, limiting her screeds to her own website, rather than contacting us directly, as scripture stipulates) and to confront in whatever manner she is able the supposed errors of Kinism. Fair enough?
While we don’t hold out hope that she will prove more formidable than any of Kinism’s previous opponents, who now speak into their beards, as it were, we think it only sporting that she be given the opportunity to air her grievances and to prove the biblical support for her gossip campaign against decent men. Cynthia is free to email me at kinadmin@kinism.net if she wishes to accept these terms. "
Dear "Nom d. Plume", I first tried to post my "open letter" on YOUR website, but it would not allow me to comment. So much for scrupulous avoidance...
And, if you wish to debate, I am ready and willing, (especially since I issued the challenge in the first place) provided we do so on neutral territory, and provided that the debate is a public discussion and open to ALL. I suggest we have a neutral third party host the debate, perhaps doing it on a YahooGroup in mid January.
I'll be looking forward to it....
.... unless, of course, "de plume" in your "nom" is a WHITE one.
.
posted by CJ | 11:16 AM
8 Comments:
Or a yellow one?
Isn't this like debating whether abortion is murder?
Yes, but you'd be surprised how many people argue that it isn't murder, and have to be logically persuaded otherwise.
Cynthia,
What a great idea!
Well, he's gotten pretty quiet, CJ, and you know what they say about silence --
"Silence is golden,
But sometimes it's yellow."
http://www.kinism.net/index.php/weblog/more/
Well, it looks like yellow is indeed the color of their Nom's feather!
Just look at the double-talk! It is customary for the one challenged to choose the venue but her views will be no more persuasive hear than anywhere else?
And your point was???
" Cynthia can even advertise the debate if she likes, for we’d like as many witnesses to the poverty of the egalitarian philosophy as possible."
So, let me get this right. Being against kinism is just egalitarian philosophy? What does egalitarianism have to do with the issue of race? Unless they truly believe that the issue of race is a heirarchal one and truly not one of equality.
"Nom", the invitation stands -- a civilized discussion on a neutral, moderated site, open to public commentary.
Bring it or leave it.
Is that crickets I hear?
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